Q: How would you describe your investment philosophy?
A: Our philosophy is based on the core belief that a stock is an ownership interest in a business. That means that stocks ought to be bought and sold with the approach of a business owner and that has certain implications for the stocks that we are choosing.
The first implication is a focus on quality and a great deal of what we do is quality assessment. The second implication is a longer-term time horizon. While the average stock on the New York Stock Exchange is held for less than a year, our average turnover is about 25%, which means that our average holding period is about four years. We analyze companies as if we’re going to hold them for ten years because that’s the time horizon of a business owner. The third implication is the intensive research required by that approach. We pay a lot of attention to the fundamentals and we know our companies well before buying them.
There are also implications for the valuation. A business owner wouldn’t consider the price-to-earnings or the price-to-book ratio. Instead, his valuation is based on discounted cash flow and we believe that’s how you ought to value stocks. We use a 10-year discounted cash flow model to calculate the intrinsic value of the business, and we aim to buy the stock at a discount of at least 40% to that intrinsic value.
An important differentiator of our philosophy is our perception of risk. We perceive risk as the probability of loss. As a result, we minimize the risk by paying close attention to the quality of the businesses that we’re investing in. We focus on higher quality companies with solid fundamentals and a low risk of operating problems because that also minimizes the risk of portfolio problems. That means that we don’t mind buying volatile stocks and we are willing to take benchmark risks. We just avoid businesses with a high probability of loss.
Q: Why do you believe that the mid-cap space is worth investing in? What’s your definition of the mid-cap universe?
A: Historically, our company has been a large-cap stocks manager. We moved down the capitalization spectrum applying exactly the same philosophy because the mid-cap space enhances our return potential without unduly increasing the risk. The idea is that the further we move down the capitalization spectrum, the more companies there are to choose from, and the greater the chance to add value for our clients. So I believe that the mid-cap space represents the best of both worlds as it offers greater return potential than the large-caps with less risk than the small-caps.
We define the mid-cap space in the range between $500 million to $5 billion. That range is a little bit lower than the range used by most funds, which usually is between $1 billion and $10 billion. But we operate at the lower end of the mid-cap spectrum on purpose - there are more companies in the lower range and a greater chance to add value. Overall, I believe that there are about 1,500 companies in our investment universe.
Q: Would you explain your definition of quality?
A: We have defined quality with three bullet points that we call ‘the three Cs of investing.’ They are Competitive Advantage, Cash Flow, and Conservative Balance Sheets, again from the business owner’s perspective. If your business doesn’t have an advantage against competition, then it is doomed for mediocrity, and we don’t want mediocre businesses.
The focus in cash flow has kept us out of a lot of trouble over the years. It kept us out of the ‘dot com’ mania, for example. In certain periods the market gets speculative and companies with questionable business models are driven to high valuations. But we are never tempted by those companies because of our focus on cash flow. The established history of cash flow is important to us because we need to project the cash flows years into the future, and history gives us some confidence in the forecast.
The emphasis on conservative balance sheets has also been important for avoiding the big disasters of the last few years. Tyco, Global Crossing, and Enron had one thing in common – they had too much debt, which exacerbates the problems. More importantly, the balance sheet provides a good insight on how the company is managed. Since we don’t manage the business ourselves, we want to make sure that it is run conservatively.
The three ‘C’s’ form the basis of the type of companies we’re looking for. Of course, there is no such thing as the perfect stock because the fourth variable is the valuation. It is extremely difficult to find stocks that score perfectly on competitive advantage, cash flow, conservative balance sheet, and have attractive valuations. There are tradeoffs to be made and my job as an analyst is to assess those trade-offs.
Q: What’s your strategy for finding high-quality companies trading at a discount?
A: There’s a misconception that growth managers own the good companies and value managers cannot focus on quality. We have found that that is not the case, certainly not in the way we define value. We are able to buy high quality companies at good prices mainly because we have a different time horizon than the Street. Even the best companies occasionally disappoint and then the Street punishes them too severely. The investor who sells the high-quality company is making an assessment about the next year or the next quarter, not about the long term, and that gives us an advantage.
The result of that strategy is that we’re usually buying companies under a cloud of uncertainty. We know that we are buying a quality business, which disappointed the Street in some way. We spend a lot of time in research trying to assure ourselves that the problems are temporary and fixable, and we are willing to buy in the face of those problems before they’re solved. It’s a bit of a contrarian approach but we buy only companies that meet our requirements for quality.
Q: What are the milestones of your portfolio construction process?
A: We manage a concentrated portfolio with 30 to 50 stocks at any given time. The weightings in the individual industries and sectors tend to be rather different from the index. Our weight in an industry can be zero, double, or triple, depending on our conviction level in the companies and our assessment of risks.
Although we are benchmark aware, we are not benchmark driven. Many mutual funds in this business follow the index closely and are scared to stray too far from it. But since we go to great lengths to minimize the business risk, we’re not afraid differ from the index. That means that in a speculative environment when the market is going up driven by a narrow group of stocks, we’ll probably underperform.
Q: Would you highlight your research process? |