Q: What is your investment philosophy?
A: Our philosophy is based on the belief that investing in companies trading below their intrinsic value should help us generate wealth through long term investing. For us, this is not a new approach, this is an approach we have employed for the last 25 years in managing our institutional clients’ assets.
Therefore, we focus on long-term value from our investments and do not screen short term metrics such as price-to-earnings, price-to-book, enterprise value or EBITDA. We look to invest predominantly in large cap companies and use a discounted cash methodology to identify them. We generally invest in stocks that at the time of purchase are contained in our benchmark Russell 1000 Value Index.
Q: What is your investment strategy and process?
A: Our investing universe is predominantly large cap companies having a market cap of at least $ 3 billion—we generally invest 70% of the portfolio’s assets in them. We also look to invest 30% in mid cap stocks within the Russell 1000 Value Index that fall between the $3 billion and $10 billion market cap.
Ours is a bottom-up investment process. An important aspect is that it is very research driven and totally dependent on the quality of our research. Our analysts’ job is not to pick stocks, instead, through intense research, they must put values on companies and also provide thorough insights into their operations.
The analysts’ valuations help us identify attractive investment opportunities in stocks with price-to-intrinsic value discrepancies. We use a discounted cash methodology to do this as we look at every business as though we’re a cash buyer of the business and try to determine its intrinsic value. Basically, we take a normalized earnings approach and discount it to the present to find out the true value of the business.
This approach keeps us from being overly optimistic at the top of a cycle and from being over pessimistic at the bottom of a cycle. Our ultimate goal is to maximize our total returns in the long run. Consequently, we don’t get caught in the game of trying to anticipate short-term price movements.
Q: What is your research process?
A: Our investment decisions depend totally on the best ideas and insights from our team of 25 analysts. This team is headed by Tom Cole, our research director who really pushes and gets us focused on the long term and what really matters in terms of valuation.
In terms of the prioritization of the research process, it’s industry fi rst and company second. We believe that to value a business, it is vital to understand its industry. In fact, sometimes the best stock ideas are byproducts of the information gathered at the industry level. Our analysts do thorough industry reviews. For our “typical” analyst, this is a career position as they develop into industry and sector-specifi c experts over time.
Each analyst thus focuses on a specifi c industry or sector. Stability is important as we depend on these people that believe in the process and do research with sincerity. For example, over the past seven years, only three senior analysts have left the fi rm and two of those were due to retirement. Our analysts are therefore embedding themselves in the industry; they are not waiting for the sell side to tell them about the quarter.
In terms of an idea or a holding, it is really one stock, and one idea at a time. This is because new ideas are very iterative in nature. At the time we are putting together the portfolio, we often get new buy ideas, especially when we meet different analysts. The same idea can come from different sources, from a different sector or analyst.
Finally, and the most important aspect of our research is that our analysts have to build and have a thesis for every stock they cover in which we’re taking a position. This may be around three to fi ve pages and must contain answers to questions like, what do we think we know about this stock and also what do we know that the market doesn’t know and why is the stock mispriced? If the analyst values a stock at $100 and the market price is at $50 but cannot tell us what he knows that the market doesn’t know, then maybe the market is right. So, we really have to have some fundamental concrete examples of what we believe in terms of strength in the fundamentals that the market doesn’t see.
Q: Can you give examples that explain the thinking behind your selection process?
A: Basically the three reasons that guide our buying decisions are: first, the obvious price-to-intrinsic value discrepancy; second, if we know something about the stock that prompts us not to buy it; and thirdly, something that we do not know that again tells us to avoid that stock.
For example, and this is kind of extreme, there was a company that is in the business of testing computer software. Around late 2005 the company got delisted because of some serious internal control problems. They weren’t filing their financials on time. Their CEO and CFO had resigned; in fact they had real shake-ups in their top management that according to us denotes a thesis violation. They suffered large financial losses. Therefore that company started to get priced like they were going into bankruptcy. now this was also during the years 2000 to 2004 where anything with an accounting issue just got hammered because there were so many accounting shenanigans, the company’s stock suffered for lack of investors’ confidence.
But the analyst covering that industry discovered they had a huge footprint in that space, a viable space in an industry that was actually growing. Hence the underlying fundamentals of the industry and the business were stronger than the stock price will suggest. Therefore, despite some real accounting issues, we found the company very attractive. Therefore, that was a company we were able to take a good sized position in because basically, the market shunned it.
Q: How is your portfolio constructed? What is the average holding time of the stocks?
A: We have companies with market caps of $2 billion and higher. Allocation in our portfolio is normally about 70% large cap and 30% mid cap. At any point of time our portfolio has about 50 to 70 stocks. A big industry bet would be weighted around 5% of the overall portfolio and a maximum would be about 12-½%. And since we do not screen for price-to-earnings, price-to-book and other metrics, our investment universe for the portfolio is basically the Russell 1000 Value Index. |